Ah, different regs for sure. So moving from state to state still means something!

Well, good luck in her quest, being a daycare worker is something that, like Charles, I wouldn't want to imagine.

Although, my wife could punish them in her way, because she doesn't believe in spanking anyway.

She had them behaving better than they would at home, for sure.

What if a woman is told she cannot have children? It is physically impossible. She gets pregnant and the baby is a boy, but autistic, ADHD, and Turret's. She finds this all out after her son is older, about 4 years old. Meanwhile, she is on birth control, in case the impossible happens again. Again she is pregnant. Not only was it supposed to be impossible to have a baby, now pregnancy has defied birth control. This child is a girl, healthy, intelligent, and a child that enjoys having responsibility and authority. She is this way by age 10. Defying birth control, condoms, and the impossible....again this woman becomes pregnant. The baby is a girl, with some genetic problems, but still healthy, intelligent, and motivated - by age 8. The woman has herself steralized.
This mother of three children attempted college from the age of 18. Did not have children until age 21. Many circumstances arose preventing the mother from finishing college. One child seriously ill from pnumonia, a muscular disease hits the mother, she almost dies from complcations from having herself steralized (fallopian tubes were strangling her intestines, almost causing her to go septic, she had four weeks to live it was projected....if she hadn't had surgery she would have died), then at age 27 she is diagnosed with schizo-effective disorder. Similar to schizophrenia.....
Other physical problems have arisen by this time as well. So now she has problems with high blood pressure, diabetes, a muscular disease, asthma, swelling of the legs and feet, endometriosis, slight heart problems, migraines, and more.
She is now on SSI, gets food stamps and TANF, and WANTS to work.
Despite her health problems this woman has a high IQ and is a rapid reader with great comprehension. She has had classes in college on subjects ranging from child care, and criminal justice to biology. My request is this. REALLY ASK YOURSELF, what can this woman do? She is eager for suggestions because she cannot find a job. There are problems with standing AND sitting for long periods of time without narcotic pain medicine to keep the pain at bay due to muscular problems. There are problems with concentration due to voices and hallucinations that are heard and seen. Blood pressure and asthma are aggrivated by heat and/or chemicals (even dust) in the air. Pain from endometriosis incapacitates her occasionally, this also happens with her migraines and heart irregularities.
Suggestions? Suggestions are welcome.

If you want to look at what the Bible has to say about Rich and the poor, I suggest you look at the passage about Lazarus and the Rich Man.

no birth control has a 100% guarantee.

Birth control has a very, very, very, very, veeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrry low failure rate when used properly.

no arguement but it is still only 98% for sure.

How can we expect people to learn to survive when all we keep doing is teaching them to depend on others?

I don't know what the health and human services dept. does for the poor where you're from,  up here in MN.  people can only get assistance for so long.  If they have another kid,  too bad,  they have to work.  They're required to work to get assistance in the form of childcare,  food supplements,  and some medical care for the kid/kids. 

The ones that are mentally ill,  and/or physically disabled can get help.  Many of the institutions that used to house the mentally ill have closed,  so there's even more homeless people now.  That created a whole new set of problems for the police, communities, ect.

You see in the end this debate is easily ended, the woman should have never gotten pregnant (not by rape) in the first place. But what people like you want is to create a system designed to help the idiots of this society

 

AHhhhh,  excuse me,  but.....how about you say the MAN shouldn't have gotten her pregnant??   I reallly believe that BOTH parties have a responsibilty here!  And whatta ya mean?  "people like you?"?????  what kind of people is THAT? 

Local put forth some really good ideas.

A true "idiot" is someone that has an extremely low IQ,  not someone that's made stupid choices.  BIG difference. 

Just MY 2 cents worth on a Saturday morning. 

And another thing,  the truly poor have the odds stacked against them.  There can be two working adults in the family,  just earning enough to pay the rent,  electric,  buy groceries,  maybe have a phone.  Their car would be rundown,  and the rising cost of gasoline makes it difficult to get to work.  Their combined income makes it difficult to get financial assistance,  probably puts them right on the border of getting medical coverage for the kids,  and not a hope of coverage for them.

This couple is honest, hardworking,  and their true hope is education,  which can lead to a better income.  Many programs that would help them are now being slashed.....

They can get groceries once a month from a local food shelf,  and for $12.00 can get "Ruby's Pantry food.  How can anyone consider a family like this as "using the system"  or having a high rate of return? 

I have a dislike myself for anyone "using" the system to get all they can.  There just isn't the "return" on using the system anymore!  It's been tightened up,  least it has here in MN.

Good article!

Thanks for the thoughts on the MN system, I'm glad it's being tightened up. Just remember... $8 per hour for two full time incomes is about $30k. $10 will get you close to $40k.

"I have a dislike myself for anyone "using" the system to get all they can.

Not like you would ever do such a thing, hmmm trudy?"

I know I would use it. But I wouldn't sabotage my life in order to qualify.

No, you don't, danielost. That is a myth.

The fact is, people CHOOSE to be two income families. Sometimes for valid reasons, but often because they couldn't possibly think that having a 13 inch TV with NO cable or antenna would be a possibility. Gotta have a $150 a month cable bill to get all the premiums, and pay an additional $50 a month for the payments on the big screen TV!

Two incomes also usually means two cars. There's a major added cost right there.

It's all about choices, danielost. People CAN make choices to be a single income family, they just may have to sacrifice some wants to do it.

you mean you can't afford a 10 dollar antenna then you need a second income. by the way a two income family doesnt mean that both parents work. it means two jobs are being worked.



yes but you would have a hard time feeding me i don't eat beans or rice. i don't like beans that is all my dad ever cooked because that was all he knew to cook. and i usually don't like rice because it isn't cooked done.

A ten dollar antenna doesn't have a 70 mile range, danielost!



Did I ever say ALL we eat are beans and rice? Nope, I didn't. Because we eat a hell of a lot more varied of a diet than that, danielost! At one time in the past I created a sample menu for $10 a day. I'm not going to do it again, because I proved my point. Living on one person's income does NOT mean starving to death!

We don't have an xbox, playstation or wii, all of our computers are cannibalized (we have FIVE working computers, just for the record...hardly luddites here...and less than $500 invested in all of those computers put together...and a whole slew of parts besides!), and we primarily use one car (we actually own a second, but it is used exclusively for hauling). We buy everything on sale. For example, we just purchased 10 CASES of notebooks (that's 240 notebooks) for the school year at 10 cents each. We also purchased pens, pencils, crayons and glue to get us through the school year and spent less than $75 all told, for 4 school aged children. I buy my rice and beans in 10 to 20 pound bags, we buy frozen leg quarters at 39 cents a pound, we buy ground turkey instead of hamburger, saving 30-50 cents a pound. I've listed all of this before, danielost, but you weren't here when I did.

Despite this all, I make well under the median income. But my family is one of my top priorities, not a bunch of meaningless "things"!

when i was a kid this was higher priced and i never liked the bones.

Why was there bones in your GROUND turkey?

because at least when they began to ground turkey they left the bones in.